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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 11:28:50 AM »
OK, then. What are we doing here.
After changing the litium power 3V with a new one
When poweroff/poweron (electric unplug).
- no more error on LCD and boot log
- Hmc load good automaticly configuration of lpar created.

And for the creation of virtual ethernet adapater under hmc lpar profil,
I just try with other version of HMC (7R7.1.0 SP4), it work good

So the problem of non save/load lpar profil configuration was an error because Litium battery 3V
And the problem of impossible to create a virtual adapter under HMC is an error become HMC (Non compatible version or corrupt install).

Next Step... Try to update my HMC to a good version that work correctly with Firefox (last version)
Because, Hmc 7R7.1.4 don't work with actuly browser (tsl and sslv3 problem)

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 01:42:21 PM »
I still have FF17 installed on my system at home, to use the ASMi interface (40-bit encryption!).

Security is not always banning things. And, this issue will only get greater as the TLS1.2 rule gets more inforced. I may actually have to buy something to keep a virtual machine with Windows XP (e.g.) to manage my old systems.

Soon FF17 will be refused as a client, rather than just lots of messages about it being old.

My backup is my Power4 system, and its extra serial ports to get to ASMI, so I can remote PowerON.

Glad to hear it was "simple" to fix, relatively speaking.

Hope to hear more of what you are doing, learning, etc.. That has been the "mission" of rootvg.net since 2001!

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2015, 09:32:01 AM »
Hi Michael !
After long days to test All HMC version (always in 'Oracle Virtualisation world')
The HMC V7R770 work good, no issue when I create à virtual adapter under the HMC Gui
Offcourse, always the probleme with TLS and SSLv3 with the couple Firefox41 & Windows 10

You know, the problem is not only the OS version, you can have some KM under windows to block some protocole AND you have also in your browser, ex firefox, some patch to block some protocol
Example, firefox 41 under windows XP will don"t work
But, another exemple, Firefox 19 (Old version can be downloader on the net easyless), work Good with protocol used by the HMC 7.7.7

It's that I made, installed Old version of firefox Only to use for the HMC Gui connexion
Offcourse, it's always possible to do not use the GUI and make all with command line but as you know, some actions is more easy with a GUI :)

So, ALL work for me :)
Change the battery for profil save working on my Pseries5
Install HMC v7.7 and Firefox 19 for working with a Gui

COoooolll.
Now, going to re-create or create all test Partition (is good practise)
Vio, Aix 7.1, Aix 6.1 maybe 5.3... I will see

Thks a lot for echanging idea about my 'old' probleme ;)

See you

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2015, 01:44:41 PM »
My pleasure - and FF17 is the last browser I found to support (direct) access to the ASMI browser interface. Maybe using the HMC as proxy lets you still connect to that interface.

I have never had the luxury of an HMC at home - always used IVM.

Question for you: do you get sensible output for lsrsrc - more specifically, does the VIOS see itself as a "server" - as it should in IVM mode, or as a client (as it might with an HMC).

Thanks for the update!

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2015, 03:49:08 PM »
lssrc on vios ?
I never use this command under vios !
Under Aix 4.3 -> 7.1 yes, under vios never.

What means 'Direct access for asm' !?
When I would like to connect to asm, I always connect vi FF to the HMC, exemple : https://192.168.0.8
In the new windows appear that we will call 'gui hmc under FF'.
I choice the server and with menu, connect to the ASM
A new windows apear and I going to connect with Admin login

If my memory it's always good, (not sure about that), we can access 'directly' to asm with special port, maybe 9022, don't really remember because never use.
It is this 'direct access' that you talk ?!

Idem for IVM, never use IVM GUI
I Always connect to the HMC with directly 'HMC computer' or with a browser to the good url/port (depending version of hmc) to create Logical Partition.
After always use the console (with SSH access) to do what I want under this LP


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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2015, 12:34:10 AM »
Direct connect to ASMI (i.e. without the HMC as proxy) would be https://FSP_address, e.g.

https://192.168.129.60 which becomes https://192.168.129.60/cgi-bin/cgi

For IVM - just have POWER boot "Without any knowledge of HMC" and then use your browser to connect to the VIOS IP address

For example:
http://192.168.129.61 becomes http://192.168.129.61/ivm/main.faces

Likewise:
https://192.168.129.61 becomes https://192.168.129.61/ivm/main.faces

Saves needing an HMC - but! it is looking like the RMC connections are not working (for a long while) due to changes/differences in the RSCT levels.

The command lsrsrc (not lssrc) can list the attributes of the objects (or whatever) that the RMC system understands. I was just curious to see if they were working for you at all, and in what way(s) between the VIOS and the HMC.

And while I assume you know how to become root on the VIOS - I'll mention it anyway (for others perhaps) - the command oem_setup_env gives you the root prompt (from padmin only!)

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2015, 07:45:57 AM »
ahh lsrsrc, ok (2 years I did not working under Aix, health problem...)
yes, already used on Lpar to find the HMC, I remember now
# lsrsrc IBM.ManagementServer
# lsrsrc lsrsrc IBM.MCP 

Tomorrow, I going to test this command in my PPC and I will give you the output here.

yes, oem_setup_env off course ;)

Tomorrow i Will test the ASMI connection directly, it's interreseting.
For IVM, I always believe wer must have a 'ivm licence', I going also test this, thks

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2015, 12:19:20 PM »
IVM is integrated into the VIOS - hence the name Integrated Virtual Manager. However, it is only active when the system is not connected to an HMC.

So, to activate IVM - it is not a license you need to activate - but deactivate knowledge of an HMC (aka reset the FSP).

Back in 2005-2008 when I was teaching POWER virtualization almost every week I would add this as a demonstration - decouple from a HMC.

It used to be one drawback was that you could not reassign the physical adapters to another partition, but know you can. I am going to find out what my system is missing (it is supposed to be dual i/o planer) and see if I can get to dual VIOS without an HMC. And/Or try and boot from ISCSI.

Right now my focus is on my second URL - http://www.aixtools.net. If you feel brave maybe start with my package of OpenSSH. I know it works, but probably I need some assistance getting my 'Installation instructions' improved. Your shouting at me in this forum http://forums.rootvg.net/aixtools/ is appreciated (of course, you don't have to shout  ;) )

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2015, 10:25:15 AM »
Hi !

I just tested the connection directly to ASMI withouy a Hmc, It's work.
NEED FF17 tips : Enable support for 40-bit RSA encryption in the Firefox Browser:
1: enter 'about:config' in Browser Address bar 2: find/select "security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5" 3: set boolean to TRUE

Test On Windows XP + FF17 under VirtualBox + option security
and under Real Installation of
Windows 10 -64b- with also FF17 + option security
It's slow but work.

We can use https://<FSP IP> or https://<FSP IP>/cgi-bin/cgi  as you say
Funny :)

No license for Ivm ? interesting to know, ok
I will don't try this because, need to 'cut' (not really the good name to use.. cut, but..) the connection between FSP and HMC
my Computer is on a floor and PPC on my house basement.
So... a Looooooot of steps of my staircase (round trip)... I already tired to think about this test ^_^'
Later, I will test this just for Fun and off course, see a real IVM in action.

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#On VIOS :
$ ioslevel
2.2.1.3

# lsrsrc IBM.MCP
Resource Persistent Attributes for IBM.MCP
resource 1:
        MNName            = "192.168.0.150"
        NodeID            = 11617982100091680022
        KeyToken          = "localhost"
        IPAddresses       = {"192.168.0.79"}
        ConnectivityNames = {"192.168.0.150"}
        HMCName           = "VirtualBox*0"
        HMCIPAddr         = "192.168.0.79"
        HMCAddIPs         = "10.0.0.1"
        HMCAddIPv6s       = ""
        ActivePeerDomain  = ""
        NodeNameList      = {"localhost"}


I going to see your post about OpenSSH

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Re: ADD Virtual Ethernet don't work
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2015, 04:03:08 PM »
VIOS 2.2.1.X was very nice because it connected with AIX 5.3, 6.1 and 7.1 - of that era. As the AIX 6.1 and AIX 7.1 updated their RSCT filesets they stopped communicating with IVM.

My problem seems to be because I am using two IP addresses on my VIOS - one that is used for connection with the NAS and ISCSI, and one used for connecting "outside".

If you recall, VIOS put's (actually, it tells the FSP or PHYP and one of them place the address) it address in a "secret" location, that the clients can pickup to start communicating with the HMC (now IVM) for setting up RMC aka DLPAR communication.

re: communicating with serial port - like you I work upstairs, and the computers are in the basement. I had an old system with extra serial ports and I used a program that could connect OUT to the serial port of the managed system - so I could do an install AND I could even power on the system without a browser.

If you install the system - clean - i.e., only VIOS installed, then it is a non-issue to reset to factory settings and boot only the VIOS. The system will reboot when it sees it only has VIOS booting (and no HMC) to return 75-80% of the memory to the system and restart the VIOS partition with all hardware assigned to it, plus .1 entitlement per installed processor (so with two processors, 0.2 entitlement, uncapped).

Once that is complete you can just start and run IVM with any level of browser. The FF17 and 40-bit is only to use the ASMI web interface "directly".

And, maybe we should start a new thread in http://forums.rootvg.net/virtualization/